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	<title>Comments on: Baptist Press Continues Anti-Acts 29 Agenda, Publishes Errors of SBCToday</title>
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		<title>By: Ministry of Reconciliation and the SBC &#171; The Biz Insider News Bulletin</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2009/08/24/baptist-press-continues-anti-acts-29-agenda-publishes-errors-of-sbctoday/#comment-42361</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ministry of Reconciliation and the SBC &#171; The Biz Insider News Bulletin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 24, Timmy Brister wrote his blog that tried to point out Mr. Rogers&#8217; alleged errors. Brister also recently wrote a blog about [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 24, Timmy Brister wrote his blog that tried to point out Mr. Rogers&rsquo; alleged errors. Brister also recently wrote a blog about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Scarborough</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2009/08/24/baptist-press-continues-anti-acts-29-agenda-publishes-errors-of-sbctoday/#comment-41429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gene Scarborough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!!!  The editors of BP (Al Shakleford, etc.) were fired and replaced by &quot;truth tellers.&quot;  Most SBC publications focused on promoting the SBC and damning any competition.  All was well!

NOW--30 years later they are &quot;liars&quot; again.

Will you fighting and fussing bullies on the playground stop the fussing?

&quot;Baptist&quot; has become a shame word which now stands for:

Control
Political manipulation
Block voting in national and state elections
Anti--whatever / FOR--I can&#039;t tell you what
Criticism--constant
Trust--NEVER
Cooperation--you gotta be kidding me!

This cycle is getting old and ugly without signs of Grace and Love and Peace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!!!  The editors of BP (Al Shakleford, etc.) were fired and replaced by &#8220;truth tellers.&#8221;  Most SBC publications focused on promoting the SBC and damning any competition.  All was well!</p>
<p>NOW&#8211;30 years later they are &#8220;liars&#8221; again.</p>
<p>Will you fighting and fussing bullies on the playground stop the fussing?</p>
<p>&#8220;Baptist&#8221; has become a shame word which now stands for:</p>
<p>Control<br />
Political manipulation<br />
Block voting in national and state elections<br />
Anti&#8211;whatever / FOR&#8211;I can&#8217;t tell you what<br />
Criticism&#8211;constant<br />
Trust&#8211;NEVER<br />
Cooperation&#8211;you gotta be kidding me!</p>
<p>This cycle is getting old and ugly without signs of Grace and Love and Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2009/08/24/baptist-press-continues-anti-acts-29-agenda-publishes-errors-of-sbctoday/#comment-41318</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your take on this blog post?:

http://peterlumpkins.typepad.com/peter_lumpkins/2009/08/timmy-brister-at-boiling-point-over-baptist-press-by-peter-lumpkins.html

I would especially like to know how you reconcile your statement since you accuse Rogers of lying:

&quot;“let me reiterate the matter about 10% giving in Acts 29 because this is the foundation to his entire article. The Acts 29 network does not receive mission money from churches within its network…Rather, the 10% giving reflects a commitment of Acts 29 churches to keep the priority of being a network of mission-driven, multiplying churches who dedicate a significant portion of their budget to planting more gospel-centered churches”

with this from Acts 29:

&quot;This means that when we begin our public services we will give 10% of our internal tithes and offerings… to church planting, 9% under local elder authority 1% to The Acts 29 Board Fund&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your take on this blog post?:</p>
<p><a href="http://peterlumpkins.typepad.com/peter_lumpkins/2009/08/timmy-brister-at-boiling-point-over-baptist-press-by-peter-lumpkins.html" rel="nofollow">http://peterlumpkins.typepad.com/peter_lumpkins/2009/08/timmy-brister-at-boiling-point-over-baptist-press-by-peter-lumpkins.html</a></p>
<p>I would especially like to know how you reconcile your statement since you accuse Rogers of lying:</p>
<p>&#8220;“let me reiterate the matter about 10% giving in Acts 29 because this is the foundation to his entire article. The Acts 29 network does not receive mission money from churches within its network…Rather, the 10% giving reflects a commitment of Acts 29 churches to keep the priority of being a network of mission-driven, multiplying churches who dedicate a significant portion of their budget to planting more gospel-centered churches”</p>
<p>with this from Acts 29:</p>
<p>&#8220;This means that when we begin our public services we will give 10% of our internal tithes and offerings… to church planting, 9% under local elder authority 1% to The Acts 29 Board Fund&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Intersected &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Denominations and church planting (contd)</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2009/08/24/baptist-press-continues-anti-acts-29-agenda-publishes-errors-of-sbctoday/#comment-41303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Intersected &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Denominations and church planting (contd)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Today, Scott Thomas, Acts 29 Director, posted an article detailing some of the back-and-forth. The clarification is important, if for no other reason that it destroys the straw men used in the other blog posts. My prayer is that this &#8220;controversy&#8221; stops, for the Devil would love nothing more than to continue this &#8220;death by &#8216;brothers&#8216;&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Today, Scott Thomas, Acts 29 Director, posted an article detailing some of the back-and-forth. The clarification is important, if for no other reason that it destroys the straw men used in the other blog posts. My prayer is that this &#8220;controversy&#8221; stops, for the Devil would love nothing more than to continue this &#8220;death by &#8216;brothers&#8216;&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Acts 29 Responds to Baptist Press and SBCToday &#171; Provocations &#38; Pantings</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2009/08/24/baptist-press-continues-anti-acts-29-agenda-publishes-errors-of-sbctoday/#comment-41300</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Acts 29 Responds to Baptist Press and SBCToday &#171; Provocations &#38; Pantings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Provocations &amp; Pantings Trusting God :: Treasuring Christ :: Triumphing the Gospel      &#171; Baptist Press Continues Anti-Acts 29 Agenda, Publishes Errors of&#160;SBCToday [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Provocations &amp; Pantings Trusting God :: Treasuring Christ :: Triumphing the Gospel      &laquo; Baptist Press Continues Anti-Acts 29 Agenda, Publishes Errors of&nbsp;SBCToday [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Darby Livingston</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2009/08/24/baptist-press-continues-anti-acts-29-agenda-publishes-errors-of-sbctoday/#comment-41297</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darby Livingston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim Rogers, you said: &quot;As to further discussion with you. I reference you to Romans 16:17.&quot;

Are you agreeing with Timmy at last that you&#039;re being needlessly divisive and an obstacle to the truth and that we should all have nothing to do with you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Rogers, you said: &#8220;As to further discussion with you. I reference you to Romans 16:17.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you agreeing with Timmy at last that you&#8217;re being needlessly divisive and an obstacle to the truth and that we should all have nothing to do with you?</p>
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		<title>By: tom ascol</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2009/08/24/baptist-press-continues-anti-acts-29-agenda-publishes-errors-of-sbctoday/#comment-41296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tom ascol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim R:

Hearing you admonish someone about speaking truthfully and being repentant rings hollow to me in light of our conversation at the SBC in Louisville and your yet-unfulfilled promise to me. Log and speck, brother. 

-tom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim R:</p>
<p>Hearing you admonish someone about speaking truthfully and being repentant rings hollow to me in light of our conversation at the SBC in Louisville and your yet-unfulfilled promise to me. Log and speck, brother. </p>
<p>-tom</p>
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		<title>By: pregador27</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pregador27]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe some of the giving is below 10% because the SBC leadership/image in some keys areas (like the Baptist Press) are undermining confidence in the SBC. (Not really disagreeing, just something I was thinking about after reading your comment)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe some of the giving is below 10% because the SBC leadership/image in some keys areas (like the Baptist Press) are undermining confidence in the SBC. (Not really disagreeing, just something I was thinking about after reading your comment)</p>
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		<title>By: pregador27</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2009/08/24/baptist-press-continues-anti-acts-29-agenda-publishes-errors-of-sbctoday/#comment-41294</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pregador27]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read the article and the comments addressed by Timmy above along with many, many others under that very long thread.  I do not find anything Timmy said to be out of context.  I am not impressed by the spirit of SBCToday though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the article and the comments addressed by Timmy above along with many, many others under that very long thread.  I do not find anything Timmy said to be out of context.  I am not impressed by the spirit of SBCToday though.</p>
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		<title>By: pregador27</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pregador27]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Timmy,  Thank you for this post.  I read the SBCToday article and some of the comments- I began to really wonder if I should remain a Southern Baptist. I am not ready to throw in the towel yet, but it does disgust me that some in such positions would act in such a manner.  I hear a little kid whining &quot;Acts29 is getting too much money...&quot; Wah wah... From what I have read of Acts29 they are concerned with planting effective churches.  Period. Not money.  It seems the SBC opposition to A29 is concerned with money.

Also, as for missionaries waiting... I considered being a missionary for the SBC, but since we have connections and a place of ministry ion Brazil they will not send us there.  It seems odd to me, but whatever.  

Finally, does SBCToday and Baptist Press receive money from the CP?  If so, I am going to ask my pastor to make sure the money we give does not go to the CP.  (PS- my non-Calvinistic church supports several missionaries on our own over and above the CP. And yes, I am reformed and go to a non-reformed SB church; my pastor and I work very well together.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Timmy,  Thank you for this post.  I read the SBCToday article and some of the comments- I began to really wonder if I should remain a Southern Baptist. I am not ready to throw in the towel yet, but it does disgust me that some in such positions would act in such a manner.  I hear a little kid whining &#8220;Acts29 is getting too much money&#8230;&#8221; Wah wah&#8230; From what I have read of Acts29 they are concerned with planting effective churches.  Period. Not money.  It seems the SBC opposition to A29 is concerned with money.</p>
<p>Also, as for missionaries waiting&#8230; I considered being a missionary for the SBC, but since we have connections and a place of ministry ion Brazil they will not send us there.  It seems odd to me, but whatever.  </p>
<p>Finally, does SBCToday and Baptist Press receive money from the CP?  If so, I am going to ask my pastor to make sure the money we give does not go to the CP.  (PS- my non-Calvinistic church supports several missionaries on our own over and above the CP. And yes, I am reformed and go to a non-reformed SB church; my pastor and I work very well together.)</p>
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