You make me sad!

Pray your week is truly blessed!!

Sallie

1. Do you believe that there can be no disagreement at all and everyone must join wholeheartedly with every axiom in the GCR? If you are fine with disgreement, then that takes this complaint off the table.

2. Do you have any PROOF that any one else was denied the right to write and have published an article about their views of the GCR. Would you have been ok had Mr. Chapman chosen the Texan or the Florida Baptist Witness to publish his article?
If no one was denied that right in the Baptist Press, then this complaint is off the table because Mr. Chapman did not take any special priviledges that he denied to others.

3. You siad:

“Southern Baptists spoke loudly, clearly, and definitively, and Chapman was not only wrong about the divisiveness of GCR but on the entire issue altogether. Hardly could a Southern Baptist think of a time when we were all more united around the Great Commission task entrusted to us.”

The unofficial count for the convention stands at approximately 8790. Less than 5000 have signed the GCR online. There are approximately 16 million Southern Baptists. Do you think it is fair to state that his counter GCR position has garnered no more than %5 SBC support? Maybe you could just retag it to say “of SBC attendees at the 2009 conference” to be more completely honest and accurate.

We may be happy that we had a higher attendance this year than in the previous recent years but less than a decade ago we had almost twice as much in attendance. Still, with those numbers we would have been less than 1% in attendence. I hardly call that a status quo to be proud of.

“Hardly could a southern baptist think of a time….” Do you propose to think based on the above stated numbers what ALL Southern Baptists think?

4. the point specifically, and the questions you laid out in a later comment, if I may…

In 2004, Morris Chapman gave the same type of sermon for his EC report, rather than a ” state of affairs report” itself which you state in #4 should have been given. Do you know if anyone since then has told him that he is giving the wrong type of report and isn’t allowed to preach at a convention?

I don’t know how old you are, or how many opportunities you’ve had to meet with or listen to Morris Chapman, but have you told Morris Chapman before that you thought his reports were wrong to be sermons instead of fact sharing reports? Did you ask those same questions listed in “question 2 regarding his EC report” in the comments above about his 2004 report? Can you provide proof of your own correspondence to Mr. Chapman about his report giving in previous years? I only ask for proof regarding your questions specifically in light of wanting to be completely transparent in front of the SBC.

And, because you mentioned 5% again, please again see my numbers in point three for your statement about marginalizing.

5. The medium of Twitter is not really your bestest ally for proving SBC support when you break down the numbers. Anyway, as far as the twitter thing goes, as of 3:48 pm yesterday, there were 352 tweets/twubs for Clark Logan.

Of those 352, slightly more than 20% (20.17 to be specific) were merely the standard “I just became a member of the Twub for #clarklogan at http://twubs.com/clarklogan“. That doesn’t really say anything pro or con about the situation other than I just have my ear open to what is being said.

Over half of the other 80% were retweets of posts (baptist 21 and you getting the big share of course) or articles (Clark Logan makes statement, Johnny Hunt weighs in, and so forth).

Surprisingly, a great number of the retweets were also because of an original tweet from @nathanlino stating that Ronnie Floyd, in a QnA panel @ SWBTS, said folks should contact the EC about Morris Chapman not going along with the GCR. That QnA had nothing to do with Clark Logan but solely the GCR and so it should not have gotten the Clark Logan hashtag associated with it AT ALL, but it was by added @josh_howell. I have sent him a message to ask him why he was trying to mix the two situations but no response yet. Hmmm.. I do see that you have mixed the two subjects as well in your statement above repeating what Ronnie Floyd said about the GCC.

Even if we take the whole of the 352 posts as seperate items (though many people — including yourself who tweeted MANY MANY times in that whopping number of 352– tweeted more than once so we can’t really take them as seperate people) we would still only have approximately 0.0022% of the WHOLE SBC twittering about this. Again, not a status quo to be proud of.

A quick search for blog posts including “Clark Logan” for the past month turns up 21. More than 13,000 blog posts are listed for the southern baptist convention for the same time period.

With all of that being said, it might suffice to say that “it seems” a few people are willing to blow a little incident up into a big thing.

So, are you really concerned about finding out why Clark Logan was asked for his resignation. Or, are you more interested in getting rid of Morris Chapman because he doesn’t agree with the GCR?

I think those were all the points I wanted to make…

Thanks!

Sallie

What I meant was the oddity you expressed about abrupt termination for poor job performance without prior notifications as you mentioned. In other words, I was trying to utilize the argument you were making. It was poorly worded!

I am very interested to see if anyone will answer. If no one from the EC answers these questions then I think we have a far more serious issue in the SBC than just Chapman being out of step with the Convention.

Also, I think the answers to these questions will go a very long way in identifying just who else is in Chapman’s camp… (You know me, I’ve never met a conspiracy theory I didn’t love). But in all seriousness, I do not think Chapman just pulled that EC report out of thin air, and I do not think that Logan’s dismissal was unrelated to Chapman’s EC report.

Grace Always,

“Hunt told the Witness he has not spoken with Chapman about the controversy, but he has talked to Logan.”

Wow!

That Johnny Hunt (the president of the SBC) has called Logan, and has not spoken to Chapman concerning this issue at all speaks volumes in itself…

I would say that a whole lot more is going on here than has come out so far…