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	<title>Comments on: David Allen, Hyper-Calvinism, and James White: The Rundown</title>
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		<title>By: On the SBC and anti-Calvinism :</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/30/david-allen-hyper-calvinism-and-james-white-the-rundown/#comment-42659</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[On the SBC and anti-Calvinism :]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 04:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to open up, I found Timmy Brister&#8217;s timeline very useful in organizing all of the commentary concerning the John 3:16 conference. While the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Kirby L. Wallace</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/30/david-allen-hyper-calvinism-and-james-white-the-rundown/#comment-41130</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirby L. Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Monica Dennington must have read this thread!  ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Monica Dennington must have read this thread!  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Russ Davis</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/30/david-allen-hyper-calvinism-and-james-white-the-rundown/#comment-38922</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russ Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I ever needed a reason (I don&#039;t) for not flinging the meaningless C &amp; A terms around as has happened here and throughout blogdom, and thinking anything meaningful has been communicated, the John 3:16 disaster and its aftermath is one candidate.  Dear Lord please save me from my FRIENDS! I can take care of my enemies myself!  NOT!
Russ
Proverbs 10:19
1 Corinthians 1:1-20
1 John 1:8-10]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I ever needed a reason (I don&#8217;t) for not flinging the meaningless C &amp; A terms around as has happened here and throughout blogdom, and thinking anything meaningful has been communicated, the John 3:16 disaster and its aftermath is one candidate.  Dear Lord please save me from my FRIENDS! I can take care of my enemies myself!  NOT!<br />
Russ<br />
Proverbs 10:19<br />
1 Corinthians 1:1-20<br />
1 John 1:8-10</p>
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		<title>By: Deouble-Payment, Double-Jeopardy: Three Documented Responses &#166; Theology Online: Theology, Back to the Basics</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/30/david-allen-hyper-calvinism-and-james-white-the-rundown/#comment-38899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deouble-Payment, Double-Jeopardy: Three Documented Responses &#166; Theology Online: Theology, Back to the Basics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Recently I saw one blog reference the double-payment dilemma. You can see its very brief remark here. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Jim Pemberton</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/30/david-allen-hyper-calvinism-and-james-white-the-rundown/#comment-38893</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Pemberton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony,
I&#039;m one who rarely comments in part because of long comment threads like the ones you left here. I imagine you are still monitoring the comments here. The truth is important. If the truth about God is important then the truth about our motives is just as important. No one needs to know the answer and I expect you not to respond. In fact you shouldn&#039;t respond. But I ask you to examine your motives honestly in this debate. In fact we all should diligently seek to ensure we are duly motivated not by our own pride or desires, but by the Spirit of God himself who Indwells us as people of God.

Your brother in Christ.
-Jim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,<br />
I&#8217;m one who rarely comments in part because of long comment threads like the ones you left here. I imagine you are still monitoring the comments here. The truth is important. If the truth about God is important then the truth about our motives is just as important. No one needs to know the answer and I expect you not to respond. In fact you shouldn&#8217;t respond. But I ask you to examine your motives honestly in this debate. In fact we all should diligently seek to ensure we are duly motivated not by our own pride or desires, but by the Spirit of God himself who Indwells us as people of God.</p>
<p>Your brother in Christ.<br />
-Jim</p>
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		<title>By: TurretinFan</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/30/david-allen-hyper-calvinism-and-james-white-the-rundown/#comment-38885</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TurretinFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve Camp has also responded via his blog.   &lt;a href=&quot;http://stevenjcamp.blogspot.com/2008/12/im-calvinist-not-hyper-calvinist-my.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link to Response&lt;/a&gt;

Tony wrote: &quot;There’s no reason for me to continue here. It’s not hospitable or conducive to irenic discussion.&quot; 

I would second that idea and expand it.  It is better for Tony not to continue, period.  His methods of misinformation are not conducive to peace or love.

-TurretinFan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Camp has also responded via his blog.   <a href="http://stevenjcamp.blogspot.com/2008/12/im-calvinist-not-hyper-calvinist-my.html" rel="nofollow">Link to Response</a></p>
<p>Tony wrote: &#8220;There’s no reason for me to continue here. It’s not hospitable or conducive to irenic discussion.&#8221; </p>
<p>I would second that idea and expand it.  It is better for Tony not to continue, period.  His methods of misinformation are not conducive to peace or love.</p>
<p>-TurretinFan</p>
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		<title>By: YnottonY</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/30/david-allen-hyper-calvinism-and-james-white-the-rundown/#comment-38878</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YnottonY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am discussing things &lt;a href=&quot;http://peterlumpkins.typepad.com/peter_lumpkins/2008/12/sbc-calvinism-three-events-that-widened-the-divide-a-rejoinder-to-tom-ascol-by-david-allen.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on Lumpkins blog now&lt;/a&gt;, if you want to ask me question there. Timmy&#039;s willfully permitting disrespectful and abusive comments to be made here (example=Stephen&#039;s comment above), so I&#039;ve chosen to go elsewhere.

There&#039;s no reason for me to continue here. It&#039;s not hospitable or conducive to irenic discussion.

Bye,
Tony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am discussing things <a href="http://peterlumpkins.typepad.com/peter_lumpkins/2008/12/sbc-calvinism-three-events-that-widened-the-divide-a-rejoinder-to-tom-ascol-by-david-allen.html" rel="nofollow">on Lumpkins blog now</a>, if you want to ask me question there. Timmy&#8217;s willfully permitting disrespectful and abusive comments to be made here (example=Stephen&#8217;s comment above), so I&#8217;ve chosen to go elsewhere.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason for me to continue here. It&#8217;s not hospitable or conducive to irenic discussion.</p>
<p>Bye,<br />
Tony</p>
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		<title>By: Hyper-Calvinism So-Called, Southern Baptist Bureaucrats, and Real Calvinists Like James White &#8211; PROPHEZEI</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/30/david-allen-hyper-calvinism-and-james-white-the-rundown/#comment-38876</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hyper-Calvinism So-Called, Southern Baptist Bureaucrats, and Real Calvinists Like James White &#8211; PROPHEZEI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Greg Alford</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/30/david-allen-hyper-calvinism-and-james-white-the-rundown/#comment-38866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Alford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where did Tony Go?

Someone remind me never to answer this guys questions in the future…

With that, I am ignoring Tony… 

Greg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did Tony Go?</p>
<p>Someone remind me never to answer this guys questions in the future…</p>
<p>With that, I am ignoring Tony… </p>
<p>Greg</p>
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		<title>By: johnMark</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/30/david-allen-hyper-calvinism-and-james-white-the-rundown/#comment-38860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnMark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony,

Greg asks some good questions.  You classify yourself as a Calvinist.  Of all the issues of this whole conference your only concern seems to be the atonement.  Why?

Do you think the rest of the presenters did such a wonderful job examining Calvinism that we should all be praising them?  Where do you stand on this?

If high Calvinism and moderate Calvinism are both Calvinistic positions which can affirm Dordt contra Arminian views of the atonement, then why are you so caught up on dividing up Calvinists for such a presentation as given at the J3:116C?  What&#039;s the deal here?  

I also don&#039;t understand how you seem unaffected by Dr. Allen&#039;s statement about five point Calvinism being a move away from the Gospel.  Do you agree with this?

With that, I am confused...

Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>Greg asks some good questions.  You classify yourself as a Calvinist.  Of all the issues of this whole conference your only concern seems to be the atonement.  Why?</p>
<p>Do you think the rest of the presenters did such a wonderful job examining Calvinism that we should all be praising them?  Where do you stand on this?</p>
<p>If high Calvinism and moderate Calvinism are both Calvinistic positions which can affirm Dordt contra Arminian views of the atonement, then why are you so caught up on dividing up Calvinists for such a presentation as given at the J3:116C?  What&#8217;s the deal here?  </p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t understand how you seem unaffected by Dr. Allen&#8217;s statement about five point Calvinism being a move away from the Gospel.  Do you agree with this?</p>
<p>With that, I am confused&#8230;</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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