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	<description>Trusting God :: Treasuring Christ :: Triumphing the Gospel</description>
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		<title>By: SBC&#8217;s Calvinism &#8220;Debate&#8221; in Warp Speed &#171; magnifyGOD</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/03/steve-lemke-compilation/#comment-38852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SBC&#8217;s Calvinism &#8220;Debate&#8221; in Warp Speed &#171; magnifyGOD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Taylor and Timmy Brister both wrote responses to the article (I should also note that the Journal for Baptist Theology and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Taylor and Timmy Brister both wrote responses to the article (I should also note that the Journal for Baptist Theology and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Ascol Responds to the Anti-Calvinism in the SBC &#171; Provocations &#38; Pantings</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/03/steve-lemke-compilation/#comment-38824</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Ascol Responds to the Anti-Calvinism in the SBC &#171; Provocations &#38; Pantings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of Tom Ascol who addresses three recent happenings: Steve Lemke&#8217;s article in NOBTS journal (which I have addressed), David Allen&#8217;s 34-page review of Building Bridges book, and the John 3:16 Conference. Ascol [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Tom Ascol who addresses three recent happenings: Steve Lemke&#8217;s article in NOBTS journal (which I have addressed), David Allen&#8217;s 34-page review of Building Bridges book, and the John 3:16 Conference. Ascol [...]</p>
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		<title>By: First Southern Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Let&#8217;s Not Brew Unnecessary Schisms</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/03/steve-lemke-compilation/#comment-38750</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[First Southern Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Let&#8217;s Not Brew Unnecessary Schisms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] were gravely misrepresented in this article (see page 18, you can also read more critiques here and here), not because he (unintentionally) skewed the points (it would be sinful for me to question his [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] were gravely misrepresented in this article (see page 18, you can also read more critiques here and here), not because he (unintentionally) skewed the points (it would be sinful for me to question his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Voddie Baucham &#171; Interstitial</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/03/steve-lemke-compilation/#comment-38712</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Voddie Baucham &#171; Interstitial]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] opinion. But reading about the recent John 3:16 conference. Reading Steve Lemke&#8217;s paper and Timmy Brister&#8217;s rebuttal. Listening to messages against Calvinism by the likes of Johnny Compton and the rebuttal thereto by [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] opinion. But reading about the recent John 3:16 conference. Reading Steve Lemke&#8217;s paper and Timmy Brister&#8217;s rebuttal. Listening to messages against Calvinism by the likes of Johnny Compton and the rebuttal thereto by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Privett &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Does regeneration precede faith? John answers the John 3:16 Conference</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/03/steve-lemke-compilation/#comment-38674</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Privett &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Does regeneration precede faith? John answers the John 3:16 Conference]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] which may be applicable with regards to Dr. Lemke, but I would be remiss if I did not point you to a compilation of Timmy Brister&#8217;s interactions with Lemke and his writings.  I, for one, thank God that salvation was neither logically or practically up to my decision, but [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which may be applicable with regards to Dr. Lemke, but I would be remiss if I did not point you to a compilation of Timmy Brister&#8217;s interactions with Lemke and his writings.  I, for one, thank God that salvation was neither logically or practically up to my decision, but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anti-Calvinist Conference Fizzles Theologically And Historically &#171; Thoughts &#38; Actions</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/03/steve-lemke-compilation/#comment-38639</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anti-Calvinist Conference Fizzles Theologically And Historically &#171; Thoughts &#38; Actions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Timmy Brister traces his interaction with Steve Lemke, conveying that Steve Lemke has deliberately chosen to be dishonest (&#8221;failure to deal honestly&#8221;) and inaccurate (&#8221;failure to deal accurately&#8221;) about Calvinistic Baptists. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Timmy Brister traces his interaction with Steve Lemke, conveying that Steve Lemke has deliberately chosen to be dishonest (&#8221;failure to deal honestly&#8221;) and inaccurate (&#8221;failure to deal accurately&#8221;) about Calvinistic Baptists. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/03/steve-lemke-compilation/#comment-38558</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t you mean &quot;disinterested&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you mean &#8220;disinterested&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: In Light of the Gospel &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Baptists, Calvinism, and Scholarship</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/03/steve-lemke-compilation/#comment-38543</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[In Light of the Gospel &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Baptists, Calvinism, and Scholarship]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Timmy Brister has a comprehensive review of it at his blog, and you can see all the links here. And now Justin Taylor has responded to it [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Timmy Brister has a comprehensive review of it at his blog, and you can see all the links here. And now Justin Taylor has responded to it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Timmy,

I&#039;m writing anonymously because I am an NOBTS student and I don&#039;t care to make my name known. I don&#039;t plan on disparaging anyone so I don&#039;t think my name is important, but let it suffice to say that I&#039;ve spent quite a bit of time at NOBTS, certainly far more than Tyler. What many, including you Timmy, may not realize was the impact that Hurricane Katrina had on the faculty of NOBTS. Not only did it wipe out most of the housing on campus, it also robbed the school of at least four theology and/or biblical studies faculty members who were Calvinists. They have either not been replace, or replaced with non-Calvinists. I don&#039;t think that makes Lemke or Kelley bad administrators. No one said SBC seminary faculties needed to be balanced like the Supreme Court. However, I would find it quite probable (as I knew very well 3 of the 4 faculty members who left) that these faculty members would have personally confronted Lemke over his article. In addition, another theology faculty member (although not a Calvinist) who left not long after Katrina (though not because of the storm) who happens to be speaking at John 3.16 as well would have at least challenged Lemke on his errors. While they mostly agree theologically, they are miles apart as it pertains to treating issues fairly. I have had multiple classes with Lemke and, as it pertains to Calvinism, he has absolutely no objectivity. He is unfair towards Calvinists and I actually saw him railroad a student&#039;s presentation on the issue of free will and compatiblism. NOBTS, pre-Katrina, was the largest of the 6 SBC seminaries and, in my opinion, was the best place to study because the theology and biblical studies faculty was evenly balanced on the issue of Calvinism and because the city was a great place for ministry. Since there has been such an exodus of good faculty members (though I think some fine men and women are still there), I no longer recommend the school to students looking for an education (which saddens me, by the way).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timmy,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m writing anonymously because I am an NOBTS student and I don&#8217;t care to make my name known. I don&#8217;t plan on disparaging anyone so I don&#8217;t think my name is important, but let it suffice to say that I&#8217;ve spent quite a bit of time at NOBTS, certainly far more than Tyler. What many, including you Timmy, may not realize was the impact that Hurricane Katrina had on the faculty of NOBTS. Not only did it wipe out most of the housing on campus, it also robbed the school of at least four theology and/or biblical studies faculty members who were Calvinists. They have either not been replace, or replaced with non-Calvinists. I don&#8217;t think that makes Lemke or Kelley bad administrators. No one said SBC seminary faculties needed to be balanced like the Supreme Court. However, I would find it quite probable (as I knew very well 3 of the 4 faculty members who left) that these faculty members would have personally confronted Lemke over his article. In addition, another theology faculty member (although not a Calvinist) who left not long after Katrina (though not because of the storm) who happens to be speaking at John 3.16 as well would have at least challenged Lemke on his errors. While they mostly agree theologically, they are miles apart as it pertains to treating issues fairly. I have had multiple classes with Lemke and, as it pertains to Calvinism, he has absolutely no objectivity. He is unfair towards Calvinists and I actually saw him railroad a student&#8217;s presentation on the issue of free will and compatiblism. NOBTS, pre-Katrina, was the largest of the 6 SBC seminaries and, in my opinion, was the best place to study because the theology and biblical studies faculty was evenly balanced on the issue of Calvinism and because the city was a great place for ministry. Since there has been such an exodus of good faculty members (though I think some fine men and women are still there), I no longer recommend the school to students looking for an education (which saddens me, by the way).</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy Brister</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/11/03/steve-lemke-compilation/#comment-38540</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timmy Brister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tyler,

Four brief things in response:

1.  You are not the first who has communicated to me via the blog and email that they will be looking elsewhere for theological education, largely in part to Lemke&#039;s example.  

2.  My stats tell me that several from that NOBTS message board have visited in recent weeks.  I hope they receive a balanced perspective on Lemke&#039;s lopsided caricatures.  

3.  The terminology has always been used as a power play in the SBC.  If you can define (or redefine) the terms, you are halfway to winning an argument.  If it isn&#039;t hyper, then it is extreme, or aggressive, or &quot;five point,&quot; or something else.  I have become convinced that the anti-Calvinists are far less concerned in seeking understanding as much as they are playing the label game for their own purposes.

4.  If you look at the demographics of the John316 conference and the trends of NOBTS and SWBTS verses SBTS and SEBTS, you will find where the future of the SBC can be found.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler,</p>
<p>Four brief things in response:</p>
<p>1.  You are not the first who has communicated to me via the blog and email that they will be looking elsewhere for theological education, largely in part to Lemke&#8217;s example.  </p>
<p>2.  My stats tell me that several from that NOBTS message board have visited in recent weeks.  I hope they receive a balanced perspective on Lemke&#8217;s lopsided caricatures.  </p>
<p>3.  The terminology has always been used as a power play in the SBC.  If you can define (or redefine) the terms, you are halfway to winning an argument.  If it isn&#8217;t hyper, then it is extreme, or aggressive, or &#8220;five point,&#8221; or something else.  I have become convinced that the anti-Calvinists are far less concerned in seeking understanding as much as they are playing the label game for their own purposes.</p>
<p>4.  If you look at the demographics of the John316 conference and the trends of NOBTS and SWBTS verses SBTS and SEBTS, you will find where the future of the SBC can be found.</p>
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