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	<title>Comments on: Steve Lemke on Timothy George and ROSES</title>
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		<title>By: Steven Long</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/10/13/steve-lemke-on-timothy-george-and-roses/#comment-39949</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Long]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Timmy. I found your site via a search for Dr. George and stumbled upon the link that read to this review. It was very helpful for the reason that I had been hearing a lot about ROSES but was only briefly familiar with what it was. Your review helped me quite a bit. Thanks again. I&#039;ll be dropping by from time to time to check for any new stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Timmy. I found your site via a search for Dr. George and stumbled upon the link that read to this review. It was very helpful for the reason that I had been hearing a lot about ROSES but was only briefly familiar with what it was. Your review helped me quite a bit. Thanks again. I&#8217;ll be dropping by from time to time to check for any new stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: joyfulfreedom1</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/10/13/steve-lemke-on-timothy-george-and-roses/#comment-38795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joyfulfreedom1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 00:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you brother, this was a great help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you brother, this was a great help.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Pemberton</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/10/13/steve-lemke-on-timothy-george-and-roses/#comment-38337</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Pemberton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good work on this, Timmy!

I&#039;ve often considered that many who believe in LFW who take exception to Dortian Reformed theology to be semi-Pelagian if only because the philosophical presuppositions that inform their hermeneutic are themselves informed by the incoherent popular philosophical considerations of western culture. Rooted in existentialism, they produce undeveloped theologies that often match semi-Pelagianism closely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work on this, Timmy!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve often considered that many who believe in LFW who take exception to Dortian Reformed theology to be semi-Pelagian if only because the philosophical presuppositions that inform their hermeneutic are themselves informed by the incoherent popular philosophical considerations of western culture. Rooted in existentialism, they produce undeveloped theologies that often match semi-Pelagianism closely.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Pruitt</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/10/13/steve-lemke-on-timothy-george-and-roses/#comment-38312</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Pruitt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Timmy,

Thanks for this series of posts.

You are absolutely correct in your assessment of George&#039;s ROSES.  I taught &quot;Amazing Grace&quot; as a Sunday evening elective course.  It was a very helpful study and would surprise many Southern Baptists that it was Lifeway&#039;s annual study a few years ago.  

Anyway, I agree that George in NO way &quot;softens&quot; TULIP.  Actually I prefer ROSES in some ways because I think it communicates the doctrines of grace a bit more clearly.

Of the 50 plus that attended the study there were several determined non-Calvinists who either changed their mind or walked away with a greater understanding of and appreciation for our Reformed heritage.  

blessings]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timmy,</p>
<p>Thanks for this series of posts.</p>
<p>You are absolutely correct in your assessment of George&#8217;s ROSES.  I taught &#8220;Amazing Grace&#8221; as a Sunday evening elective course.  It was a very helpful study and would surprise many Southern Baptists that it was Lifeway&#8217;s annual study a few years ago.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I agree that George in NO way &#8220;softens&#8221; TULIP.  Actually I prefer ROSES in some ways because I think it communicates the doctrines of grace a bit more clearly.</p>
<p>Of the 50 plus that attended the study there were several determined non-Calvinists who either changed their mind or walked away with a greater understanding of and appreciation for our Reformed heritage.  </p>
<p>blessings</p>
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		<title>By: The Boar&#8217;s Head Tavern</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/10/13/steve-lemke-on-timothy-george-and-roses/#comment-38310</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Boar&#8217;s Head Tavern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Timmy Brister</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/10/13/steve-lemke-on-timothy-george-and-roses/#comment-38305</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timmy Brister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thomas,

I am not a big fan of labels, as I explained in the earlier posts.  I think, from the two articles by Lemke, the case could be made in his own words, that he is very close to semi-Pelagianism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas,</p>
<p>I am not a big fan of labels, as I explained in the earlier posts.  I think, from the two articles by Lemke, the case could be made in his own words, that he is very close to semi-Pelagianism.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Twitchell</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/10/13/steve-lemke-on-timothy-george-and-roses/#comment-38302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Twitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What would be the appropriate labels for Lemke? You&#039;ve defined him, care to use the labels that belong to the definitions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would be the appropriate labels for Lemke? You&#8217;ve defined him, care to use the labels that belong to the definitions?</p>
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		<title>By: PAUL WAYNE FOLTZ DD</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/10/13/steve-lemke-on-timothy-george-and-roses/#comment-38301</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PAUL WAYNE FOLTZ DD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lemke as usual. makes much ado about nothing. George agrees with the Calvinists&#039; Position.

I wonder if he is writing to draw a crowd after him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemke as usual. makes much ado about nothing. George agrees with the Calvinists&#8217; Position.</p>
<p>I wonder if he is writing to draw a crowd after him.</p>
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		<title>By: johnMark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnMark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Timmy,

I appreciate the work you&#039;re doing on Lemke&#039;s positions.  The differences are so clear.

Thanks,

Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timmy,</p>
<p>I appreciate the work you&#8217;re doing on Lemke&#8217;s positions.  The differences are so clear.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Rae Whitlock</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/10/13/steve-lemke-on-timothy-george-and-roses/#comment-38299</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rae Whitlock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding depravity, Lemke seems to be confusing &quot;Total Depravity&quot; (every part of us is sinful) with &quot;Utter Depravity&quot; (we&#039;re all as sinful as we could possibly be) -- a pretty common error that I&#039;d hope a scholar like him would be keen to avoid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding depravity, Lemke seems to be confusing &#8220;Total Depravity&#8221; (every part of us is sinful) with &#8220;Utter Depravity&#8221; (we&#8217;re all as sinful as we could possibly be) &#8212; a pretty common error that I&#8217;d hope a scholar like him would be keen to avoid.</p>
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