Comments on: Steve Lemke on Total Depravity

By: june

june — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:36:40 +0000

thank God He sees us in TD because none of us can boast of being better then the next sinner
He gives us the free gift of salvation and puts us in His robe of righteousness
Amen

By: Steve Lemke on Timothy George and ROSES « Provocations & Pantings

Steve Lemke on Timothy George and ROSES « Provocations & Pantings — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:36:24 +0000

[...] clear? The argument that Calvinists holding to TULIP believe in a total loss of the image of God is patently false and an irresponsible insertion by Lemke. On point one, there is nothing softer nor could it be [...]

By: Steve Lemke on TULIP « Provocations & Pantings

Steve Lemke on TULIP « Provocations & Pantings — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:37:22 +0000

[...] Lemke on TULIP Since I addressed the T in TULIP in greater detail in my previous post, I will begin with the U of Unconditional election. While each point of TULIP as addressed by [...]

By: Darrin

Darrin — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:19:43 +0000

Looks like I’ll just stick with New Orleans for coffee and beignets, and seek theological counsel elsewhere.

By: radically saved from my depravity

radically saved from my depravity — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:51:59 +0000

James NOBTS not only has issues with Calvinism but the attitude on campus is very exclusive not inclusive so unless you are a SBC card carrying clone you will be kept at arms length at best and an outsider at worse. I recommend another seminary as above are even a none SBC, there are many good ones out there!

By: theophilogue

theophilogue — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:37:12 +0000

Timmy,

You’ve been tagged for a survey. Go to theophilogue.wordpress.com

I think, at least, that you are a Southern Student (maybe I’m wrong, but I tagged you anyway).

Bradley

By: Rev.

Rev. — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:00:34 +0000

In my opinion, Dr. Lemke’s assertions regarding the age of accountability distort the reality of what Baptists have historically taught on the subject with the exception of the Anabaptists. I’ve posted on this issue myself, today, and another post will follow tomorrow. Thanks for your thoughts, Timmy.

By: Stephen Byrd

Stephen Byrd — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 02:21:58 +0000

What’s unfortunate is that I went to NOBTS from 2000-2003 and sat under men [2 in particular] who were Calvinists and did an excellent job in teaching both sides of the debate. I left there with a better understanding and a more firm commitment to the Doctrines of Grace because of them. Unfortunately, they are now gone post-Katrina as are many of the professors under whom who I learned a great deal. Most of my friends that currently attend NOBTS are more than disappointed with what has happened since the storm in the quality of professors. It is sad, but true.

By: Keith Walters

Keith Walters — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:57:25 +0000

Timmy,
Fantastic critique and sadly I have heard many who would agree with Lemke’s semi-Pelagian understanding of depravity, several of which teach at SBC seminaries.

James,
I know numerous individuals who have graduated from NOBTS, several who are there now, and even some Calvinist members of their faculty; however, I would recommend considering SBTS or SEBTS. Those are my thoughts on the subject, I am sure others may differ but I do not see myself recommending that school unless serious changes take place.

By: james clardy

james clardy — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:23:49 +0000

“Unfortunately, NOBTS has a reputation of being less than sympathetic to the Calvinist movement in the SBC… and Lemke has now reinforced this sentiment among a new generation of young Calvinist in the convention, who when considering a seminary may very well write NOBTS off their list.”

I am considering going to NOBTS in the fall of 2009 and it is becoming extremely difficult to continue the admission process. I do not want to constantly hear attacks on Calvinist while trying to earn my degree. I want to be taught God’s Word, not a man’s agenda within an organization.