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	<title>Comments on: Repentance and Reorientation: SBC in Decline</title>
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		<title>By: Dr. James Willingham</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/04/23/repentance-and-reorientation-sbc-in-decline/#comment-42941</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is another aspect to this to be considered, one the enemy knows and fears, namely, that our fermenting fusses are but the preliminary noises of an approaching storm, a Great Awakening.  Yes, there are promises in the Bible to the effect that this whole earth shall be full of His knowledge and glory as the waters cover the sea, and the honor of that lies in the winning of the world to Christ by Gospel believes being willing to suffer until the cows come home.  Nothing is ever easy, especially the best of all.  Remember, we have never seen th Gospel in its glorious power as our ancestors and predecessors saw in 1741 and 1801, when it transformed Portestantism from a Gospel recovery movement, contentious, combative, conflicted, into a mission bent on persuading the whole earth ith paradoxical truths passionately proclaimed and practiced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another aspect to this to be considered, one the enemy knows and fears, namely, that our fermenting fusses are but the preliminary noises of an approaching storm, a Great Awakening.  Yes, there are promises in the Bible to the effect that this whole earth shall be full of His knowledge and glory as the waters cover the sea, and the honor of that lies in the winning of the world to Christ by Gospel believes being willing to suffer until the cows come home.  Nothing is ever easy, especially the best of all.  Remember, we have never seen th Gospel in its glorious power as our ancestors and predecessors saw in 1741 and 1801, when it transformed Portestantism from a Gospel recovery movement, contentious, combative, conflicted, into a mission bent on persuading the whole earth ith paradoxical truths passionately proclaimed and practiced.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. James Willingham</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/04/23/repentance-and-reorientation-sbc-in-decline/#comment-40160</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. James Willingham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 02:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you fellows ever think that some from outside the SBC might be planning to bust it up, that they could be the explanation for so much divergence from th original theology, that some of their minions might be in the SBC to drive things to extremes where no one could abide such differences?  Infiltration has a long and decided history in the Christian Faith.  Think on it, and think on this: What happens to 10,000+ missionaries? Who stands to benefit from the bust up?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you fellows ever think that some from outside the SBC might be planning to bust it up, that they could be the explanation for so much divergence from th original theology, that some of their minions might be in the SBC to drive things to extremes where no one could abide such differences?  Infiltration has a long and decided history in the Christian Faith.  Think on it, and think on this: What happens to 10,000+ missionaries? Who stands to benefit from the bust up?</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Parry</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/04/23/repentance-and-reorientation-sbc-in-decline/#comment-36122</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucas Parry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 22:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep!! I see the decline every week in our youth ministry..... and another great church in the area split because the leadership decided to address and tackle the above problems..... the old guard (big givers) left....

However, I think the issue is even deeper.... they say that up to 97% of people in our churches attend church, leave and not engage in ministry until next Sunday! 97% - that crazy!! People have adopted the &#039;consumer&#039; mentality rather than living the personal &#039;mission&#039; God has for every believer!! I think this needs to be tackled from the ground up..... inspiring people to live missional lives! Yes, its a leadership issue also...... but, I wonder if the change will come from grassroots??? Time will tell.

As an fyi.... you may find this interesting, the ministry Im involved in.... we do a lot within the SBC and are looking to team up more with the IMB in the next month or so.... &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://thegoconcert.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The GO Concert&lt;/A&gt; Its a concert tour which aims to inspire people to live missional lives - We just went live with this new tour two weeks ago.... Shane Claiborne, Todd Phillips and Bill Hybels all make an appearance at it via video with inspiring messages that we all have a &quot;mission&quot; and are responsible for living out the call of Christ. We hope to inspire more of that dormant 97% of the church to &quot;wake up&quot;. We&#039;ll see how it goes! :)

Anyways, just an FYI.... keep up the great work!

~Lucas~]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep!! I see the decline every week in our youth ministry&#8230;.. and another great church in the area split because the leadership decided to address and tackle the above problems&#8230;.. the old guard (big givers) left&#8230;.</p>
<p>However, I think the issue is even deeper&#8230;. they say that up to 97% of people in our churches attend church, leave and not engage in ministry until next Sunday! 97% &#8211; that crazy!! People have adopted the &#8216;consumer&#8217; mentality rather than living the personal &#8216;mission&#8217; God has for every believer!! I think this needs to be tackled from the ground up&#8230;.. inspiring people to live missional lives! Yes, its a leadership issue also&#8230;&#8230; but, I wonder if the change will come from grassroots??? Time will tell.</p>
<p>As an fyi&#8230;. you may find this interesting, the ministry Im involved in&#8230;. we do a lot within the SBC and are looking to team up more with the IMB in the next month or so&#8230;. <a HREF="http://thegoconcert.com" rel="nofollow">The GO Concert</a> Its a concert tour which aims to inspire people to live missional lives &#8211; We just went live with this new tour two weeks ago&#8230;. Shane Claiborne, Todd Phillips and Bill Hybels all make an appearance at it via video with inspiring messages that we all have a &#8220;mission&#8221; and are responsible for living out the call of Christ. We hope to inspire more of that dormant 97% of the church to &#8220;wake up&#8221;. We&#8217;ll see how it goes! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyways, just an FYI&#8230;. keep up the great work!</p>
<p>~Lucas~</p>
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		<title>By: Baptist Buzz &#38; Baptist Fizzle: Blogging About The 2007 ACP Results &#124; SBC Voices</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/04/23/repentance-and-reorientation-sbc-in-decline/#comment-35900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baptist Buzz &#38; Baptist Fizzle: Blogging About The 2007 ACP Results &#124; SBC Voices]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] As does Timmy Brister when he calls for Repentance and Reorientation: SBC in Decline [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Todd Wood</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/04/23/repentance-and-reorientation-sbc-in-decline/#comment-35792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Wood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[scratch the extra &quot;is&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scratch the extra &#8220;is&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Wood</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/04/23/repentance-and-reorientation-sbc-in-decline/#comment-35791</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Wood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Timmy, this is post helps me pray for those within the SBC.  I am an independent.  But I am praying for one of the SBC congregations, struggling in my hometown.  The LDS Zion is keenly watching SBC Zion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timmy, this is post helps me pray for those within the SBC.  I am an independent.  But I am praying for one of the SBC congregations, struggling in my hometown.  The LDS Zion is keenly watching SBC Zion.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Lamb</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/04/23/repentance-and-reorientation-sbc-in-decline/#comment-35787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Lamb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to clarify regarding my comment #1, the church I mentioned did NOT simply go through and hit the delete button on their database. They sent out letters, made phone calls, knocked on the doors of the &quot;last known address&quot;, etc., looking for these folks. Some were found to be members of other churches, some were deceased, some were out-of-state, some were not interested in church anymore, etc. 

I just wanted to say this lest anyone think I was implying that just going through a church roll and recklessly wiping off names is something responsible or good. These folks had at one time &quot;joined a church&quot;, so it is only right to go and find out where they are, both physically and spiritually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify regarding my comment #1, the church I mentioned did NOT simply go through and hit the delete button on their database. They sent out letters, made phone calls, knocked on the doors of the &#8220;last known address&#8221;, etc., looking for these folks. Some were found to be members of other churches, some were deceased, some were out-of-state, some were not interested in church anymore, etc. </p>
<p>I just wanted to say this lest anyone think I was implying that just going through a church roll and recklessly wiping off names is something responsible or good. These folks had at one time &#8220;joined a church&#8221;, so it is only right to go and find out where they are, both physically and spiritually.</p>
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		<title>By: The SBC and Our Obsession with Numbers &#171; Pastor and People</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/04/23/repentance-and-reorientation-sbc-in-decline/#comment-35777</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The SBC and Our Obsession with Numbers &#171; Pastor and People]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] To read more please visit: Tom Ascol and Timmy Brister [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Kyle Barrett</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/04/23/repentance-and-reorientation-sbc-in-decline/#comment-35773</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle Barrett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m up for a roundtable. :)

kb]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m up for a roundtable. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>kb</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy Brister</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2008/04/23/repentance-and-reorientation-sbc-in-decline/#comment-35767</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timmy Brister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Camel Rider,

Well, I am praying for those in leadership and rallying around those who are displaying a commitment for the gospel more than political tie, who care more about the numbers that God counts than the numbers we tell reporters, who are building bridges rather than burning them.  We more men who will do this.  Let us pray for broken and contrite spirit to overwhelm our hearts!

D. Taylor Benton,

I hear you man.  Regarding the SBC getting its house in order, I think that should be the order of business in Indy.  Imagine what would happen if we all came together to approach the throne of God with repentant hearts and a spirit of fervor for the gospel?  

What God is doing among Sovereign Grace churches is truly a wonderful thing, and I am glad to see you blessed by the church you are serving in.    Do continue to pray for the work going on in the SBC.  I think many are discouraged, disillusioned, and at a loss.  What now?  Three straight years of decline in baptisms.  Lowest since 1987.  On and on.  What now?  I think how we answer that question, where we find our solutions, will be crucial for the future of the SBC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Camel Rider,</p>
<p>Well, I am praying for those in leadership and rallying around those who are displaying a commitment for the gospel more than political tie, who care more about the numbers that God counts than the numbers we tell reporters, who are building bridges rather than burning them.  We more men who will do this.  Let us pray for broken and contrite spirit to overwhelm our hearts!</p>
<p>D. Taylor Benton,</p>
<p>I hear you man.  Regarding the SBC getting its house in order, I think that should be the order of business in Indy.  Imagine what would happen if we all came together to approach the throne of God with repentant hearts and a spirit of fervor for the gospel?  </p>
<p>What God is doing among Sovereign Grace churches is truly a wonderful thing, and I am glad to see you blessed by the church you are serving in.    Do continue to pray for the work going on in the SBC.  I think many are discouraged, disillusioned, and at a loss.  What now?  Three straight years of decline in baptisms.  Lowest since 1987.  On and on.  What now?  I think how we answer that question, where we find our solutions, will be crucial for the future of the SBC.</p>
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