http://timmybrister.com/2007/10/24/book-alert-the-future-of-justification-for-5/ Trusting God :: Treasuring Christ :: Triumphing the Gospel Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:35:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ http://timmybrister.com/2007/10/24/book-alert-the-future-of-justification-for-5/#comment-20653 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:52:41 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/10/24/book-alert-the-future-of-justification-for-5/#comment-20653 Wow Rey. That’s a mighty big claim you make there. I haven’t read the book, so I cannot chime in at this point, except to say that you must be understanding something that the most qualified and accomplished NT scholars have failed to see in Piper’s book.

]]> http://timmybrister.com/2007/10/24/book-alert-the-future-of-justification-for-5/#comment-20648 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:14:04 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/10/24/book-alert-the-future-of-justification-for-5/#comment-20648 The “New” Perspective is not really new, as Piper accidentally admits in asserting that Wright claims that the “church” has been wrong for 1500 years. Why doesn’t Piper say Wright claimed the “church” was wrong for 1974 years (2007 – 33 = 1974)? Because the “mainstream” perspective on Paul didn’t begin in 33 AD but with Augustine in the 5th century. Augustine died in 430 which makes it more like 1577 years than 1500, but the point is the same. The perspective on Paul that existed prior to Augustine is clearly much closer to the so-called “new” perspective than to Augustine’s (and hence Luther and Calvin’s) view! Everyone prior to Augustine believed in a distinction between present-day justification and future-justification. Prior to Augustine nobody thought that future-justification would be on faith-alone but everyone believed it would be (in Wright’s terms) “on the basis of the entire life lived” (or as Paul says, in Romans 2:9-11 “Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God.” ) Basically, I’m not impressed with Piper’s book. He just seems to be like “we can’t abandon the 1500 years of misreading Paul that Augustine caused because we just can’t.” He doesn’t really grasp what Wright is saying, and overall he just appears weak in understanding.

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]]> http://timmybrister.com/2007/10/24/book-alert-the-future-of-justification-for-5/#comment-16609 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:09:45 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/10/24/book-alert-the-future-of-justification-for-5/#comment-16609 Thanks for the update. I look forward to getting into this one!

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