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	<title>Comments on: Blue Collar Theology 2: My Story</title>
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		<title>By: Timmy Brister</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2007/08/13/blue-collar-theology-2-my-story/#comment-10562</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Micky,

Thank you for sharing about how Jesus, by His grace, has changed your life.  Jesus welcomes sinners, and like Paul, I feel like I am chief and most undeserving of such mercy.  It is easy to overlook that this mercy which is displayed in God&#039;s sending His own Son into the world to die in the place for sinners is also a reminder of the justice that should be ours for the punishment of our sins.  Praise God that by faith we can have forgiveness through God judging sin in the cross, mercy through Jesus satisfying God&#039;s wrath and holiness, and peace through Jesus&#039; blood which covers all our sins.  

Timmy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micky,</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing about how Jesus, by His grace, has changed your life.  Jesus welcomes sinners, and like Paul, I feel like I am chief and most undeserving of such mercy.  It is easy to overlook that this mercy which is displayed in God&#8217;s sending His own Son into the world to die in the place for sinners is also a reminder of the justice that should be ours for the punishment of our sins.  Praise God that by faith we can have forgiveness through God judging sin in the cross, mercy through Jesus satisfying God&#8217;s wrath and holiness, and peace through Jesus&#8217; blood which covers all our sins.  </p>
<p>Timmy</p>
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		<title>By: Micky</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2007/08/13/blue-collar-theology-2-my-story/#comment-10561</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SAVED BY GRACE
I saw that wisdom is better than folly, just as light is better than darkness. Ecclesiastes 2:13
About 3 years ago I dropped into a black hole – four months of absolute terror. I wanted to end my life, but somehow [Holy Spirit], I reached out to a friend who took me to hospital. I had three visits [hospital] in four months – I actually thought I was in hell. I imagine I was going through some sort of metamorphosis [mental, physical &amp; spiritual]. I had been seeing a therapist [1994] on a regular basis, up until this point in time. I actually thought I would be locked away – but the hospital staff was very supportive [I had no control over my process]. I was released from hospital 16th September 2004, but my fear, pain &amp; shame had only subsided a little. I remember this particular morning waking up [home] &amp; my process would start up again [fear, pain, &amp; shame]. No one could help me, not even my therapist [I was terrified]. I asked Jesus Christ to have mercy on me &amp; forgive me my sins. Slowly, all my fear has dissipated &amp; I believe Jesus delivered me from my “psychological prison.” I am a practicing Catholic &amp; the Holy Spirit is my friend &amp; strength; every day since then has been a joy &amp; blessing. I deserve to go to hell for the life I have led, but Jesus through His sacrifice on the cross, delivered me from my inequities. John 3: 8, John 15: 26, are verses I can relate to, organically. He’s a real person who is with me all the time. I have so much joy &amp; peace in my life, today, after a childhood spent in orphanages . God LOVES me so much. Fear, pain, &amp; shame, are no longer my constant companions. I just wanted to share my experience with you [Luke 8: 16 – 17].
PEACE BE WITH YOU
MICKY]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAVED BY GRACE<br />
I saw that wisdom is better than folly, just as light is better than darkness. Ecclesiastes 2:13<br />
About 3 years ago I dropped into a black hole – four months of absolute terror. I wanted to end my life, but somehow [Holy Spirit], I reached out to a friend who took me to hospital. I had three visits [hospital] in four months – I actually thought I was in hell. I imagine I was going through some sort of metamorphosis [mental, physical &amp; spiritual]. I had been seeing a therapist [1994] on a regular basis, up until this point in time. I actually thought I would be locked away – but the hospital staff was very supportive [I had no control over my process]. I was released from hospital 16th September 2004, but my fear, pain &amp; shame had only subsided a little. I remember this particular morning waking up [home] &amp; my process would start up again [fear, pain, &amp; shame]. No one could help me, not even my therapist [I was terrified]. I asked Jesus Christ to have mercy on me &amp; forgive me my sins. Slowly, all my fear has dissipated &amp; I believe Jesus delivered me from my “psychological prison.” I am a practicing Catholic &amp; the Holy Spirit is my friend &amp; strength; every day since then has been a joy &amp; blessing. I deserve to go to hell for the life I have led, but Jesus through His sacrifice on the cross, delivered me from my inequities. John 3: 8, John 15: 26, are verses I can relate to, organically. He’s a real person who is with me all the time. I have so much joy &amp; peace in my life, today, after a childhood spent in orphanages . God LOVES me so much. Fear, pain, &amp; shame, are no longer my constant companions. I just wanted to share my experience with you [Luke 8: 16 – 17].<br />
PEACE BE WITH YOU<br />
MICKY</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy Brister</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2007/08/13/blue-collar-theology-2-my-story/#comment-10502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timmy Brister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thomas,

We are all &quot;under construction,&quot; aren&#039;t we?!  I suppose that, in our journey of sanctification, we all have some stories to tell.  I appreciate you sharing your experience and for the encouragement.

Bill,

You are spot on with the youth ministry stuff!  When I used to teach students, I taught 45-60 minute expository messages and made my manuscript available to students after the service for students to take home for further study and application (to be used with their devotional times).  When I first did that, I printed out 8-10 manuscripts, and to my surprise, all of them were gone.  I doubled it the next week, and not a single one was left.  This is a reminder that when you feed students God&#039;s Word, they will develop a hunger and thirst for it.  When kids come to church and find nothing different offered than a sanitized movie theater, we do not need to wonder why that, when the movie ends (leave school), they don&#039;t hang around (church drop outs).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas,</p>
<p>We are all &#8220;under construction,&#8221; aren&#8217;t we?!  I suppose that, in our journey of sanctification, we all have some stories to tell.  I appreciate you sharing your experience and for the encouragement.</p>
<p>Bill,</p>
<p>You are spot on with the youth ministry stuff!  When I used to teach students, I taught 45-60 minute expository messages and made my manuscript available to students after the service for students to take home for further study and application (to be used with their devotional times).  When I first did that, I printed out 8-10 manuscripts, and to my surprise, all of them were gone.  I doubled it the next week, and not a single one was left.  This is a reminder that when you feed students God&#8217;s Word, they will develop a hunger and thirst for it.  When kids come to church and find nothing different offered than a sanitized movie theater, we do not need to wonder why that, when the movie ends (leave school), they don&#8217;t hang around (church drop outs).</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy Brister</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2007/08/13/blue-collar-theology-2-my-story/#comment-10501</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timmy Brister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[J. Gray,

The funny thing is, when I was cleaning out our guest bedroom/new baby room, I came across those lists stashed under the bed.  Of course, those lists need to be updated!  I will see about getting those up in the near future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J. Gray,</p>
<p>The funny thing is, when I was cleaning out our guest bedroom/new baby room, I came across those lists stashed under the bed.  Of course, those lists need to be updated!  I will see about getting those up in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Timmy,

I think it&#039;d be a great idea to post your lists of &quot;Top 50 Books to Read&quot; as well as the &quot;Authors to Avoid&quot;.

It might help those that are in need of a resource like that.

JG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timmy,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;d be a great idea to post your lists of &#8220;Top 50 Books to Read&#8221; as well as the &#8220;Authors to Avoid&#8221;.</p>
<p>It might help those that are in need of a resource like that.</p>
<p>JG</p>
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		<title>By: Seminary and My Home Church &#171; Almanac of Captivity</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2007/08/13/blue-collar-theology-2-my-story/#comment-10494</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seminary and My Home Church &#171; Almanac of Captivity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  I initially thought that this post would reflect a bit on my first day of classes. But I came upon this post by Timmy Brister, in his series on &#8220;Blue Collar Theology.&#8221; He desires for theological [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Bill Nettles</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2007/08/13/blue-collar-theology-2-my-story/#comment-10461</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Nettles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another problem with the typical SBC (and probably other) church is that doing a book study with young people requires small groups (not the norm), a leader who has some theological insight (probably an adult who isn&#039;t cool), and actually staying on topic rather than &quot;sharing.&quot;  Add to that a youth leader who is probably the least mature adult, trained in &quot;Christian Education&quot; rather than theology. Then students complain when they aren&#039;t entertained (but there are those fine exceptions who DO want more) and get the parents upset.

I eagerly anticipate the impact that you and others like you (Dockery, Vincent, Sherid, Van Neste, etc.) will make when you are unleashed on the SBC. However, you&#039;ll have to articulate the vision of &quot;youth ministry&quot; to the parents up front and get their support, because the kids won&#039;t like it.

A sad tale: A friend was helping lead college SS and wanted to lead a class in a study of a book of the Bible. The leader said, &quot;Oh, these students aren&#039;t mature enough for a solid Bible study. We need to study this book.&quot; The book: a John Eldridge piece of mind-numbing rambling. My question: How do you get mature if you don&#039;t study the Bible?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another problem with the typical SBC (and probably other) church is that doing a book study with young people requires small groups (not the norm), a leader who has some theological insight (probably an adult who isn&#8217;t cool), and actually staying on topic rather than &#8220;sharing.&#8221;  Add to that a youth leader who is probably the least mature adult, trained in &#8220;Christian Education&#8221; rather than theology. Then students complain when they aren&#8217;t entertained (but there are those fine exceptions who DO want more) and get the parents upset.</p>
<p>I eagerly anticipate the impact that you and others like you (Dockery, Vincent, Sherid, Van Neste, etc.) will make when you are unleashed on the SBC. However, you&#8217;ll have to articulate the vision of &#8220;youth ministry&#8221; to the parents up front and get their support, because the kids won&#8217;t like it.</p>
<p>A sad tale: A friend was helping lead college SS and wanted to lead a class in a study of a book of the Bible. The leader said, &#8220;Oh, these students aren&#8217;t mature enough for a solid Bible study. We need to study this book.&#8221; The book: a John Eldridge piece of mind-numbing rambling. My question: How do you get mature if you don&#8217;t study the Bible?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Clay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Clay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can relate, Timmy.  I was raised in an A/G home by loving parents (although my father has since fallen into apostacy) but also enjoyed reading as a child.  I remember reading every Agatha Christie novel I could get my hands on (for a season).  When I experienced regeneration, I dove into reading in a whole new way.  First and foremost, I loved the Bible. Unfortunately, I had not a clue of what to read besides that.  I thought the deepest book out there was &quot;Good Morning, Holy Spirit&quot; by Benny Hinn or the LaHaye &quot;Left Behind&quot; series!!

Only in the last 5-7 years have I come to realize that there is an entire world of great riches to be found (Edwards, Piper, Dagg, etc.).  

However, I keep those books from my early Christian experience on display in my office bookshelf for all to see a window into my sanctification. :-)  Don&#039;t be ashamed of the journey....Rejoice in it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can relate, Timmy.  I was raised in an A/G home by loving parents (although my father has since fallen into apostacy) but also enjoyed reading as a child.  I remember reading every Agatha Christie novel I could get my hands on (for a season).  When I experienced regeneration, I dove into reading in a whole new way.  First and foremost, I loved the Bible. Unfortunately, I had not a clue of what to read besides that.  I thought the deepest book out there was &#8220;Good Morning, Holy Spirit&#8221; by Benny Hinn or the LaHaye &#8220;Left Behind&#8221; series!!</p>
<p>Only in the last 5-7 years have I come to realize that there is an entire world of great riches to be found (Edwards, Piper, Dagg, etc.).  </p>
<p>However, I keep those books from my early Christian experience on display in my office bookshelf for all to see a window into my sanctification. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Don&#8217;t be ashamed of the journey&#8230;.Rejoice in it!</p>
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		<title>By: Pseudo-Polymath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; (premature) Morning Highlights</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2007/08/13/blue-collar-theology-2-my-story/#comment-10447</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pseudo-Polymath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; (premature) Morning Highlights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Blue collar theology and a life&#8217;s story at Provocations and Pantings. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Blue collar theology and a life&#8217;s story at Provocations and Pantings. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy Brister</title>
		<link>http://timmybrister.com/2007/08/13/blue-collar-theology-2-my-story/#comment-10441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timmy Brister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craig,

I think we talked about this sometime earlier, didn&#039;t we?!  I think a major issue in the churches is the idea that if our kids go to youth camp or children&#039;s church, then we are par for the course.  The problem is that the bar has been lowered to a level that we have undermined the minds of our children and fed their appetites with banal buffets from the world.  Shouldn&#039;t the church be the place where our children are challenged the most?  If as much energy and passion is spent on knowing God as winning the next video game, then we would see a remarkable thing in our generation.  Theology must be integrated in the family and in the church beyond a program and one week out of the year.  One does not wonder why we loose our young people so quickly to the world.  Could it be that they have borrowed convictions and superficial moorings?  

It is my hope that a passion for the truth and a passion for knowing God will rise from the ranks of the redeemed through the Spirit&#039;s awakening our minds and renewing our hearts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig,</p>
<p>I think we talked about this sometime earlier, didn&#8217;t we?!  I think a major issue in the churches is the idea that if our kids go to youth camp or children&#8217;s church, then we are par for the course.  The problem is that the bar has been lowered to a level that we have undermined the minds of our children and fed their appetites with banal buffets from the world.  Shouldn&#8217;t the church be the place where our children are challenged the most?  If as much energy and passion is spent on knowing God as winning the next video game, then we would see a remarkable thing in our generation.  Theology must be integrated in the family and in the church beyond a program and one week out of the year.  One does not wonder why we loose our young people so quickly to the world.  Could it be that they have borrowed convictions and superficial moorings?  </p>
<p>It is my hope that a passion for the truth and a passion for knowing God will rise from the ranks of the redeemed through the Spirit&#8217;s awakening our minds and renewing our hearts.</p>
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