Comments on: Baptist ID: Dr. Thom Rainer on “Evangelism and Church Growth in the Southern Baptist Convention” http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/15/baptist-id-dr-thom-rainer-on-evangelism-and-church-growth-in-the-southern-baptist-convention/ Trusting God :: Treasuring Christ :: Triumphing the Gospel Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:22:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: David http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/15/baptist-id-dr-thom-rainer-on-evangelism-and-church-growth-in-the-southern-baptist-convention/#comment-3075 Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:53:40 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/15/baptist-id-dr-thom-rainer-on-evangelism-and-church-growth-in-the-southern-baptist-convention/#comment-3075 thanks for posting this…

]]> By: billphillips http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/15/baptist-id-dr-thom-rainer-on-evangelism-and-church-growth-in-the-southern-baptist-convention/#comment-2726 Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:54:56 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/15/baptist-id-dr-thom-rainer-on-evangelism-and-church-growth-in-the-southern-baptist-convention/#comment-2726 The law (the Ten Commandments) is a gift from God to help people get saved. It stops the mouth of sinners (Romans 3:19), shows people what their sin is (Romans 3:20), and is a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ (Galatians 3:24). Christians aren’t under the law, but the unsaved are. The vast majority of gospel presentations ignore the law completely.

Ignoring the law makes hell unreasonable. Most pastors don’t even mention hell. How can the Christians be concerned about people’s eternal destiny in hell, when the pastor rarely talks about hell? Since people don’t hear a good gospel presentation, they don’t know what to say when they’re witnessing.

Ignoring the law creates false converts, because people come to Jesus to get their problems solved, rather than to have their sins forgiven. Therefore, they don’t actually repent or become born-again.

I think another problem is that pastors aren’t leading the way. I go witnessing on Main Street in my hometown of 25,000 with about 40 churches. Why are there zero pastors willing to go with us? Why are one other guy and I the only ones willing to go?

Church is not supposed to be a pleasure cruise. It should be a battle ship at the gates of hell.

Bill

]]> By: Timmy Brister http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/15/baptist-id-dr-thom-rainer-on-evangelism-and-church-growth-in-the-southern-baptist-convention/#comment-2725 Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:31:45 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/15/baptist-id-dr-thom-rainer-on-evangelism-and-church-growth-in-the-southern-baptist-convention/#comment-2725 Jim U.,

The stats come directly from Dr. Rainer in his message. I believe he got them from his research and the team that works directly under his leadership.

]]> By: Jim U. http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/15/baptist-id-dr-thom-rainer-on-evangelism-and-church-growth-in-the-southern-baptist-convention/#comment-2724 Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:21:18 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/15/baptist-id-dr-thom-rainer-on-evangelism-and-church-growth-in-the-southern-baptist-convention/#comment-2724 Good post. Where’d you get the stats at the beginning of the post?

]]> By: Coops http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/15/baptist-id-dr-thom-rainer-on-evangelism-and-church-growth-in-the-southern-baptist-convention/#comment-2723 Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:14:36 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/15/baptist-id-dr-thom-rainer-on-evangelism-and-church-growth-in-the-southern-baptist-convention/#comment-2723 I like this: “My eschatology is this: Christ’s Church will prevail. ” :) Thanks for sharing

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