Comments on: Bad Theology – Exhibit A http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/ Trusting God :: Treasuring Christ :: Triumphing the Gospel Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:22:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Andy Naselli » Blog Archive » An Illustration of Eisegetical, Manipulative Evangelism http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-14934 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:34:53 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-14934 [...] I was reminded of this tract today while re-reading George Mish Marsden’s Fundamentalism and American Culture: The Shaping of Twentieth-Century Evangelicalism: 1870-1925 (2d ed.; New York: Oxford, 2006), p. 100. (It also occurs on p. 100 in the 1980 edition.) I spent a while searching for an image of it and finally found one on Timmy Brister’s blog. [...]

]]> By: Strange BaptistFire » Blog Archive » Ernest Reisinger on the Importance of the Doctrine of Limited Atonement to Gospel Proclamation (part 2) http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2661 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:56:08 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2661 [...] a vote against you, and you must cast the deciding vote” (an old distortion recently noted by Timmy Brister). Notice that if God has left 1% of the work of salvation up to Man or if Man must cast the [...]

]]> By: Jeremy http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2649 Thu, 08 Feb 2007 03:35:08 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2649 You learn to savor every small victory in IFB/KJV world. :-)

]]> By: Timmy Brister http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2648 Thu, 08 Feb 2007 02:51:09 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2648 Jeremy,

Great way of putting it. :)

SelahV,

No need to apologize. I believed the tract at one time as well. Maybe if you hang around I can convince you otherwise.

Art,

Marsden really does a job on the pre and post mil viewpoints on culture, especially how the change they sought moved from public and political (post mil optimism) to private and pietistic (pre mil pessimism). I had a lot of light bulbs turn on when I read this book. I am looking at writing a paper on the relationship of evangelism and social work in the lives of fundamentals. Some were “missional” back then while others focused only on “winning souls” (a la Moody).

]]> By: art rogers http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2645 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:28:09 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2645 Timmy,

I have that book. I had to read it in college. I think I am going to re-read it. I didn’t have any sense back then and just didn’t understand what it was talking about.

I came from a Pre-Trib Dispensationalist church. Now I am reformed and very different.

Jeremy,

I love that quote.

art

]]> By: selahV http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2644 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:09:03 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2644 JEREMY: That’s really a great argument. Thanks. selahV

]]> By: Jeremy http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2643 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:55:56 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2643 I grew up hearing this from the pulpit. One time there was a Calvinist present. When he got a chance to preach he said, “There are three things wrong with that. First, God is sovereign, he doesn’t have to vote. Second, Satan’s not registered to vote. And third, you were to young to vote when the election took place.”

]]> By: selahV http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2642 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 07:19:31 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2642 Timmy: Ummm… hee hee. Just couldn’t resist. I like the last part of your comment. I apologize and beg your forgiveness, but I really like Moody’s tract. So sorry. SelahV

]]> By: Timmy Brister http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2641 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:46:37 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2641 Having studied a little of the history of fundamentalism, I have come to the realization that most everything I read early on was from this tradtion (e.g. Moody, Torrey, Murray, etc). I had heard of and read this illustration and thought it was a compelling evangelistic technique.

Then I read my Bible, and ruined all of that.

Now, I would be amiss to fail to mention how much I was stimulated in my passion for evangelism and soul winning through the example and leadership of men like Moody. When was reading Moody, I was at the same time seeing many of my friends who had a more accurate understanding of the gospel but was doing nothing with it.

Then I was introdued to Spurgeon, Edwards, Puritans, etc., and later William Carey, Adoniram Judson, and Andrew Fuller.

Moody didn’t believe theology was important and ignored it altogether (ironically, he founded Moody Bible Institute), and such a gospel tract reveals how tragic such an apathetic approach to theology rakes the character of God over the coals. On the other hand, there are fellow Reformed brethren who can articulate the finer points of theology but cannot and do not share the love of Christ with the world. My hope is that we can see a revival of both in our day–passion for the truth of the gospel with a hot heart for those who do not know Christ.

]]> By: Stephen Newell http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2639 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 02:50:16 +0000 http://timmybrister.com/2007/02/06/bad-theology-exhibit-a/#comment-2639 Ah…those were the days…when life was as simple as a decision… :-P

I can’t tell you how much I cringe to think of things like this now, and how much I used to believe in them.

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